this is quite interesting, are these online ordination's legal in the UK, meaning can someone who has been 'net ordained' actually perform marriages and such in the UK?
Posted by john martin at October 12, 2006 11:59 AMI don't know, but doubt it.
Posted by David Jennings at October 12, 2006 12:43 PMIt is all well and good to criticise on-line ordination and easy distance learning methods of achieving qualifications, but what about guys and girls like me? Thirty odd years of ministry as a lay preacher travelling from one end of Wales or, latterly, the Midlands to lead services. In great demand to take funerals and christenings (naming ceremonies if you like "new speak") and no straightforward way for us to take a course of study. I have a ful time occupation as well as preaching/funerals and I'm afraid that disappearing for three years or whatever to Ridley College or some such would deprive me of income and a lot of my "flock" of someone they can rely on for pastoral care. At the age of 60 with a lot of worldly wisdom, I neither need to spend hours being told how to speak to a young mum who's just lost her baby or her partner or her mum.....I do it all the time and from the reaction I get, do it adequately. I spent half my life training people in presentation skills. People refer to me as "the vicar" or the "Minister" and I would love to really be one but I can't find a church that will let me prove my skills and then grant me ordination. Should I just buy a dog collar and ordain myself? After all I can't see where in the Book of Acts it talks about the apostles going on any courses.
Posted by Phil Niblock at August 22, 2007 6:59 PMPhil, I think the answer to your needs would be based on the Accreditation of Prior Learning (APL) principle. Basically APL seeks to assess and recognise the skills and knowledge you have already acquired through your experience — no need to do another course to learn what you already know.
I have no idea whether churches have the mechanisms in place to accredit what you have learnt in this way. It's an administrative and infrastructure issue for them.
Posted by David Jennings at August 22, 2007 8:03 PMI completely agree with Phil. Where in the bible does it say someone has to be recognised by a church to minister - whether via APL or not?
And who would you trust more - someone with no qualification but plenty of skills (or/and experience), or someone with few skills and no experience who managed to get a qualification?
Surely (if a Christian minister) the only qualification needed is that you are approved of by Jesus Christ?
Posted by PJ Croad at September 24, 2011 5:51 PM